So where does (mainly S London) dubstep from the middle of the last decade fi...

Julian Bond - 2012-12-07 13:11:28+0000 - Updated: 2012-12-07 13:11:28+0000

So where does (mainly S London) dubstep from the middle of the last decade fit in all this? Sign of the Dub, Loefah, Kode9, Burial, DMZ, Mala, Benga, Skream, etc etc And people (more recent?) like J:Kenzo, or the whole Pinch, Shackleton, Applebim group from Bristol?

Feels like there's this disconnect between what Dubstep used to mean and what it appears to mean now. The same genre name being used for two things that are fairly, if not completely different.

Shaun McLane - 2012-12-07 13:12:38+0000

I'm not sure how to answer that, but I understand what you mean. It's all welcomed here.

Xeno Sapien - 2012-12-07 13:17:26+0000

lol... sorry, I always have to smile or laugh when I hear people complaining about this...

as a 30+ year old metalhead, I can only say: welcome to my world!
it´s been like this for "us" for years, and it has neither hurt the genre as a whole or any of the sub-genres - on the contrary, there´s so much more BETTER, more innovative fresh new (metal) music out there now... and it is or will be the same for dubstep.

stop worrying about genres and just enjoy what sounds good to you, is what i´d say ;)

Julian Bond - 2012-12-07 13:59:17+0000 - Updated: 2012-12-07 14:02:06+0000

+Martin Huckert I hear you. I'm not trying to go back to the past (even if it's only 5 years), but there are two streams here with the same name. The 'nuum that passed through S London is still going and still progressing. But the EDM, wub, wub stream split off and went it's own way. And even though genre names are not hugely important, they do provide some common context with which to talk about all this stuff. We need a more common language to talk about this stuff rather than just "well, a bit like Burial but less dark". I know arguments about genre relevance and naming can get really annoyingly meta. But there does seem to be quite a problem just here. There again, the whole UK Bass scene is a big melting pot this year with loads of cross pollination. A lot of the dance genres are making little or no sense this year, or rather fitting an artist or even one track into them is getting increasingly hard.

On which; is there any critical analysis or even review discussion about what's good and what isn't around Brostep? Where would you go to find journalists writing intelligently about it?

Junkion Systems - 2012-12-07 14:04:12+0000

you know +Julian Bond in response to your original post, i was wondering the same thing last night, the yanks have it twisted i know. but i wasn't going to bring it up crass since i'm a yank as well, but i got into it back in '04, on irc efnet to be precise. so i feel ya.

Julian Bond - 2012-12-09 08:23:42+0000

This is dubstep. Pretty much covers the whole spectrum of music with that 2-step beat, 140bpm and loads of bass weight.
http://forum.funkysouls.com/index.php?act=ST&f=71&t=327533&s=